11-24-2009, 05:40 AM
I don't know if it was Red 2 or Red 3 reassembled from what was left of it,but Estes did recast one of the original ILM models for sure! The ICONS was purportedly made from scratch according to a 3-D modeling program. This wasn't recast from any known source.
The story was that the Maxi-Brute was recast from a pyro model that was preserved in a box in the archives,but never saw the light of day after Estes was done with it. I heard that one of the ILM modelers put it back together for this recast,but nothing ever happened after this session.
This was a while ago,so I don't know who it was that my source got this information from was reliable enough,or not. I read that from someone else on another forum chatroom as well,as my un-named source. I believe it to be true. There's a lot of speculation about these models,but no one has come forth with any useful information other than what I just posted here.
We all know that the original ILM models were kitbashed,and scratch built parts,but none of the modelers on this,or any other forum are aware of any of the events,or in which order any of the things that transpired to the end of filming. Everything else is conjecture beyond what we can see. Maybe all the secrecy surrounding all this is simply because no one at that time cared,nor was there an ILM model fan following as there is today.
What happened to Red 5? Why is Red 3 painted with a different scheme than it originally had in Star Wars? Many people on the RPF think it was saved,and repainted. Do any of these guys remember that Red 3,as well as Red leader were PYRO MODELS??? These were destroyed in the filming process once it was established as to how these would be obliterated with pyrotechnics. There were only 7 of these made for the movie - Red 1,2,3,4,5,6,and Red12. These are all visible in the art of Star Wars,and other books.
There was a Red 3 model used for Empire,but why was its' top right wing broken? Was this Master Replicas' fault? Was this why they lost their license? Who knows? I saw the photo session of this,but it doesn't have the finesse of the original ILM models - even the pryo versions were cleaner with their glue lines. This Red 3 model looks a little sloppy compared to the original ILM models of the seventies.
The very top photo in your first post on this page has an image code on it,but it still has a red X beside it.
The story was that the Maxi-Brute was recast from a pyro model that was preserved in a box in the archives,but never saw the light of day after Estes was done with it. I heard that one of the ILM modelers put it back together for this recast,but nothing ever happened after this session.
This was a while ago,so I don't know who it was that my source got this information from was reliable enough,or not. I read that from someone else on another forum chatroom as well,as my un-named source. I believe it to be true. There's a lot of speculation about these models,but no one has come forth with any useful information other than what I just posted here.
We all know that the original ILM models were kitbashed,and scratch built parts,but none of the modelers on this,or any other forum are aware of any of the events,or in which order any of the things that transpired to the end of filming. Everything else is conjecture beyond what we can see. Maybe all the secrecy surrounding all this is simply because no one at that time cared,nor was there an ILM model fan following as there is today.
What happened to Red 5? Why is Red 3 painted with a different scheme than it originally had in Star Wars? Many people on the RPF think it was saved,and repainted. Do any of these guys remember that Red 3,as well as Red leader were PYRO MODELS??? These were destroyed in the filming process once it was established as to how these would be obliterated with pyrotechnics. There were only 7 of these made for the movie - Red 1,2,3,4,5,6,and Red12. These are all visible in the art of Star Wars,and other books.
There was a Red 3 model used for Empire,but why was its' top right wing broken? Was this Master Replicas' fault? Was this why they lost their license? Who knows? I saw the photo session of this,but it doesn't have the finesse of the original ILM models - even the pryo versions were cleaner with their glue lines. This Red 3 model looks a little sloppy compared to the original ILM models of the seventies.
The very top photo in your first post on this page has an image code on it,but it still has a red X beside it.